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Archive for 2009

praying for change

by Andy Milchard on 28th August, 2009

I’ve never blogged before so I’m not sure how this is meant to go, but I am still on holiday (just) so in theory I have the time and, in a remarkable coincidence, I also have something rattling in my brain that seems worthy of sharing.

A few weeks ago we went to New Wine and someone there was talking about an interview that Rick Warren gave. He was talking about the year when his book sold millions and was an amazing success, but at the same time his wife got cancer and was not miraculously healed, despite being prayed for. He said that he no longer thought of life as being good times and then bad times, in a sort of hilly road towards old age, but more as two rail tracks – one being good things and the other bad things, both happening at the same time. It is our choice and challenge to not focus on more of those rails to the exclusion of the other.

He also said that he thought that our lives were a series of problems: “either you are in one now, you’re just coming out of one, or you’re getting ready to go into another one” he said cheerfully. God uses these problems to change us to be more like Jesus – “God is more interested in making your life holy than He is in making your life happy”, more interested in developing your character than making you comfortable.

It made me think about my perspective on the events of each day. When things are frustrating, is this an opportunity for me to learn patience?

It also made me think about what Jesus promises in John 16, where he says that whatever we ask the Father in his name we shall receive. When we ask in Jesus name, it means asking in his character, asking as if we were Jesus. So we will get what we ask for if it is what Jesus would ask for us. What would Jesus want us to ask for? In the context of John he has just been talking about disciples loving one another, so that is one thing straight off. And if a disciple is meant to become like his master, then we should not just be asking for love, but compassion, the ability to forgive and everything else that Jesus showed us.

And that made me reflect on my prayers – how often do I pray for God to change me, and how often to I ask God to change my circumstances? I am certainly not saying that we should not ask God to intervene in the situations we find ourselves in, and it is true that he will answer some of those prayers in his grace. But I find myself thinking that I should also be talking to God and praying for help changing me inside, so that I become more like Jesus quicker rather than more comfortable.

The mystery of the church

by Matt Hyam on 19th July, 2009

“Agape” – loving totally sacrificially, without any expectation or hope of anything in return. Doesn’t sound like a pop song, when you put it like that, does it?

But we are Christians, so that kind of love should be easy! After all, Jesus modelled that for us, didn’t he? He died for us. We know that and so it is easy for us to respond to that in love.

Isn’t it?

Love – agape – its a BIG word. So big that it means that we just cannot carry on the way that we were. It means that others are always, always, always more important than I am.
Yeah, but I am really comfortable. I’m settled. I have a nice group of like-minded friends around me and I’m happy like that.

I wonder.

What about the others? You know, “them”*. The one’s who aren’t in your circle and, frankly, if they were then your circle would not be so much fun anymore.
Is it possible to be defined by love and not include “them”.
Things have changed. We used to be content in our little homogenous group – we even did things for “them” – bought food; clothes; helped – went out of our way.

But then God stuck his ore in, and messed everything up. I’m not sure we can be like we were anymore.
Actually, I am not sure we ever could, really.

I used to think that I was meant to plant a church like the one that I would like to come to – in terms of teaching about meetings and music and infrastructure etc. But then, what about people who are not like me? What about those who have not had the benefits that I have had? You know, the people with whom Jesus spent all his time?

We’re meant to be defined by love. If we are, then “they” have to be in the middle of it, because Jesus spent his life surrounded by “them” and he is our model for “love”.

Isn’t he?

The mystery of the church should be that there are so many different people with different backgrounds and different experiences from all demographics all living together in genuine unity and love. So, we need to change. We cannot carry on in a way that excludes anyone. Not in our Sunday meetings, our housegroups or our friendship groups. We’ll have to break out of our stereotypes, get to know people not like us, change the way we do things and realise that this is the way that it is meant to be this way. Because that is what Jesus was like.

Man, its hard being a Christian sometimes!

*technical term for people not like us

Too kind…

by Helen East on 10th June, 2009

I have been richly blessed by many kindnesses recently.  Some have been a total & utter surprise either by their source or the magnitude.  Some act of kindness have been no surprise because I do know some ridiculously kind people (but their act of kindness is no less of a blessing just because it’s in their very nature.) And many of the kindnesses haven’t been directed to me at all but it still blesses me to see my friends blessed. The more kindness I see, the more I see…  so now I’m in a real ‘kindness after-glow’. It’s a really nice place to be.

I wondered if the reverse would be true? If I went out of my way to look for examples of unkindness -  would I be overwhelmed by how mean everyone around me is? I think so. I decided (very late last night) that what I choose to focus on,  I see.

So I am reflecting on this verse this week because choosing to ‘think about’ the kindness and the lovely things in life inspires me to want to be kinder and lovelier.  I’m sure the same is true of  the noble, right, pure, admirable, excellent and praiseworthy things. But I’m saving those for next week.

Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. ” (Phil 4 v8 )

halting the decline

by Matt Hyam on 29th April, 2009

So, last year, I went off to Florida for a week.  Obviously I did my best to not enjoy it and, to be fair, I really did not enjoy any of the meetings.  However, God did some stuff in me.  I knew that I was different when I came back and we certainly began to see some “stuff” going down! 

We saw some amazing changes in people and a good number of healings taking place.  According to the database that I have kept since then, 40 healings involving people from our church either praying for people or being prayed for.  Now, some of those have gone on to show no further problems, some of them are “partially” healed and some of them seem to have gone back to how they were.  Still, its exciting.

The problem is that actually, at the end of September, we’d seen 35 healings and since then, only 5.  Hmmm.  So what’s that about then?  Is God on holiday?  Has the moment (Or to use Christian jargon- the “season”) passed? 

Or maybe, just maybe, we’re not praying for people so much…

Or at all?

Its definately the same God.  I checked in my Bible.  He definately still heals. and He definately told us to do the same.  I checked that too.

I have to confess, I have lost a lot of my enthusiasm (or expectation, or faith) for it.  Last July, I felt quite afronted if someone was not healed, whereas now it takes something to muster the energy to even try.

In Lakeland, he told me to pray for 100 people to be healed.  In my wildest dreams, I hoped to have seen ten of them healed.  But I didn’t.  I saw 27 of them healed.

Why did I stop?  Why did we stop?

Good question.

Here’s a challenge.  Make a commitment in your heart and before God to pray for the next ten sick people who you encounter.  At home, at work, at play, on the streets.  Then tell us the stories because that will surely build our faith/expectation/enthusiasm.

Go on.  I dare you!  I’ll do it too.

blog guru

by Duncan House on 5th April, 2009

It seems only fitting that in homage to our very first thought (over 3 years ago, would you believe!) that we give a nod to Matthew – he looks after the IT for the church and is generally smashing and lovely.

He thought it’d be nice if we no longer had to edit web pages to give you our ruminations, so he installed some proper blogging software. What’s more, this new-fangled wizardry enables you to leave comments on our thoughts – a dangerous prospect if ever I heard one.

You can also (if you’re so inclined) subscribe to the blog using RSS – so you can be sure you won’t miss out on any of the wisdom that will pour forth.

Since Matthew has forced usernames and passwords into the sticky mitts of all the members of the leadership team, you might find posts coming from a range of people… watch this space.

But what if…?

by Matt Hyam on 5th March, 2009

I am so blown away by the sacrifice and generosity of everyone who took part in Fab Feb. I cannot believe how much people have given. I know that the money will literally change lives. For the kids in India and Zimbabwe it will mean life and not death and for people in Southampton it will mean food on the table or help out of the choking grip of debt.

But, all this week, something has been rattling round my head. The one question that just will not go away.

Just think.

Just imagine.

What if?

What if we, as followers of Jesus throughout the western world, lived like this all the time?

What if we really did not buy into Babylon?

What if we chose to live in a way that flies in the face of our greed-driven culture?

What if we modelled a way of life that is possible and is radical and the world could see this?

What if?

What if we even just met somewhere “in the middle”.

I am not sure “what if”, but I am pretty sure that the church would truly be an amazing power for good in the world and the world would surely be a different place.

A better place.

Much, much better.

Was Fab Feb fab?

by Matt Hyam on 2nd March, 2009

At the time of writing, people have given nearly £23,400 (and this does not include the money that people have given independent of the “central” church collections.)

This equates to £23,400 that people have chosen to not put into savings and not spend on themselves (on top of normal giving) , in favour of giving it those who are in need.

This equates to people choosing to humble themselves and question whether “privilege” is a “right”.

This equates to people making sacrifices in the way that they live their lives in order to identify with those who do not have this choice.

This is the spirit of jubilee.

This is the kind of church that I want to be part of!

I have not spoken to anyone who has not really questioned their financial habits as a result of this month. I know that we will be living differently as a result. Some people have even taken the radical step of choosing to continue with it. That’s when it becomes Mad March!

It has made us think about how much we just spend and not even think about it. It has made us wonder why we buy some of the things that we do. It has made us think about why we are not paying off mortgages much quicker and giving away much more.

So, in summary, in my humble opinion, even though my son poured blackcurrant squash ALL over the white sofa and even though I hammered a nail through one of the heating pipes, Fab Feb was, indeed, fab.

Do it again?

Watch this space.

clearing the decks

by Matt Hyam on 6th February, 2009

Its been a long time since I last wrote anything.

Sorry about that. You know. Christmas, small children, trips to Zimbabwe and Pastor’s conferences and all that jazz.

Anyway, I am here now so I need to think of something significant to say.

Hmmm.

Well, I feel like God’s been on my case this last week or so. Something happened to me at the Vineyard Leaders’ conference and it has scarred me.

In a good way.

God just convicted me. I have spent some time saying sorry to people and dealing with issues of unforgiveness. I gotta tell you. I feel a WHOLE lot better for it.

I got fed up with being angry with people. I got fed up with decisions that I was making being guided by issues that I had or “stuff”.

I don’t feel angry anymore.

Actually, let me rephrase that. I feel really angry that we live in a world where children starve to death and where people’s love of money and oil and gold leads then to kill and torture and destroy and consume. I feel livid that people go to bed hungry while we throw away food. I feel enraged that the church in the west is still focussed on getting meetings right whilst the one’s who Jesus came for are still hungry and lonely and marginalised and broken.

So, yes, I do feel angry.

But I think that I am supposed to feel angry about those things. Assuming that this anger leads to the kind of revolution that Jesus wants.

I just don’t feel angry with people who have hurt me anymore. I am not clinging on to some twisted sense of justice whereby I want them to fail so I can be proved right.

I feel like a weight has gone off my shoulders.

Its much nicer being friends with people.

I like that feeling. I think I might stick with it.

So. Now I want to keep short accounts, which is Christian for, I want to deal with things straight away now – forgive, ask forgiveness. Let go.

You know, like Jesus said.




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